06 Feb 2012 –
Your ideas for Port Adelaide
The discussion forum has closed as the community engagement process on the future of Port Adelaide has moved to its next stage. You can now view the proposals for the future of the Port and have your say at the new consultation website: www.ourport.sa.gov.au
At the community consultation on 23 January 2012, Premier Jay Weatherill invited people to have their say about the future of Port Adelaide. People with a passion for the Port were asked to think about their big ideas for the area and two questions were asked:
- A new master plan for the Port will be created. What is the most important thing to you?
- How would you like the community to be engaged?
Participants were then asked to write down their ideas to share with others. All these ideas have been divided into categories and provided below for your review.
- Supporting a diverse community (PDF, 1.5 MB)
- Ensure a city for people (PDF, 2.4 MB)
- Consultation (PDF, 3.9 MB)
- Promote the Port's history (PDF, 3.2 MB)
- Provide a welcome to tourists (PDF, 1.6 MB)
- Facilitate coming and going (PDF, 1.1 MB)
- Celebrate the waterfront (PDF, 1.5 MB)
- Kids speak out (PDF 185 KB).
What do you think about these ideas? Do they capture your vision for the Port or do you want to say more? If you have new ideas or more to say, let us know by posting in the blog below.
On the night of the consultation some of the questions from the floor were unable to be answered due to time constraints. These are now provided below by the Premier, you can let him know what you think by commenting on his answers.
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Comments
Dan Nottle
Mon, Oct 8 at 11:44 AM
I thought it was a great day for the Port and certainly exciting prospects for the future.
I love the green open spaces and the bike path will be great, ensuring we have toilet amenities and dog friendly areas ie dog bags made available this will be a hit.
I hope to see further vibrancy added by the transfer of some public service facilities to the Port. This will immediatley enliven the area and give a boost to those businesses who have done 'the hard yards' in the port and established a loyal clientele of custom.
One drawback only from the design - the proposed apartments at Mercantile dock - these should be limited to one or two levels only with restaurants and the like on ground floor for the strip. the apartments will be boutque above and would fit better with the overall layout of the precinct.
Good luck with a speedy implementation of the first stages!
phil sweeney
Sun, Oct 7 at 7:29 PM
Really impressed today by not only the presentation, but also the turn-out. There were heaps of people eager to put their thoughts forward. I left there feeling happy and hopeful. Its a beautiful area, ripe for scrubbing up and promoting as not only a great place to live but also a lovely place to visit for tourists. Its just needed to right people with authority, to get together with the right people from the commercial world. There is potential for all parties to be winners here!
Ashleigh Coombs
Fri, Oct 5 at 11:50 AM
Turn the whole area into a pedestrian precinct (similar to Rundle Mall). Come up with a traffic management plan that better suits trading behaviours - day and night, casual, and on foot - meeting able and disable needs - culturally appropriate. Pedestrian spaces need to be interconnect with diverse activities, an exchange gateway, covering a large area and being secure. Light rail could compliment this ambience. The water/land edges will be the most productive. Shade and wind protection is essential.
Karen Bradbury
Fri, Oct 5 at 9:41 AM
university campus needed in the port to bring in overseas students and young people generally. this increases vibrancy, demand for rental and retail businesses. tourism is fine but very cotningent on disposable income, which you can't always count on. marine biology students would flock to our unique port, mangroves and seaside. overseas students would love the opportunity to live and study near dolphins!!!
mark downey
Wed, Oct 3 at 4:54 PM
I have just seen a couple of images showing possible port River front development plans. One BIG negative I noticed immediately was the siting of an open car park hard up against the waterfront. What a ridiculous use of such valuable real estate - better used for public plaza or restaurant cafe space. Cars can't enjoy such a wonderful views and outlooks!
Lillian Shai
Thu, Sep 13 at 9:44 AM
What about a popeye ride from the heart of the Port to Semaphore (Glanvile station)?
Ralph Tonkin
Thu, Aug 23 at 9:39 PM
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Ralph Tonkin
Thu, Aug 23 at 9:12 PM
BEACH BIKE BROWSE
Inner Harbour is perfect place to spend an hour or three before or after work...
A bike / hike loop beside the water at sunrise / sunset would certainly attract a healthy crowd... similar to that attracted to the ultra successful Waterfall Gully to Mt Lofty loop.
Add in a safe & protected beach in front of the Birkenhead Tavern & an array of pop up street kitchens and trinket traders along the way and enjoy the vibrancy ... all for minimal outlay :)
BEACH BIKE HIKE GRAZE BROWSE
Jason Hindes
Tue, Aug 21 at 1:52 PM
Really to make the train line electrified the train lobby obviously understands the conflict the tram will bring and has planned to get in first it’s always about controlling the funding, do you really think any more people will take the train if it’s electric
The line has 23 boom gates from the city how much traffic does that stop day in day out how much maintenance plus pedestrian crossings require repair
The huge amount of real estate taken up by the track, reclaims it for housing or park , bike and walk ways, not many people actually get on at outer harbour now as no one lives around there
Better to service outer harbour with buses and circle to a tram lick up at semi road
The train is a heavy transport & distance idea there too big and heavy unnecessary high platforms hidden in the back streets hard for many to get to let alone consider
The tram can run on city streets share terminals with buses be in the middle of the road where you want to be when you get of ,not some scary back street station or over pass
There’s no benefit for the area to upgrade the train ,the tram on the other hand will revive the main streets introduce commuters to something new easy clean interesting to visitors photographic ally
If you want a train see one at the railway museum, get there on the tram !
Ps this site is so Not user friendly
Byron Bartlett
Thu, Aug 16 at 10:03 PM
Free access to all the Museums in the Port
Jillian Pyle
Tue, Aug 7 at 5:59 PM
The trameline to Outer Harbour including Port Adelaide and a spur to Semaphore must be reinstated in the Government's transportation plan for the western suburbs immediately. In 2012 Semaphore still does not have direct public transport to the city. As a Semaphore resident I have to ask why millions have been spent and continue to be spent on Port Adelaide yet nothing has been spent on Semaphore? A tram to Port Adelaide and Semaphore would bring thousands of visitors to both locations and provide Semaphore residents with clean direct transportation to Adelaide.
Fiona McConchie
Tue, Aug 7 at 10:57 AM
To the Port Adelaide Steering Committee. I am writing at the request of the Port of Adelaide Branch of the National Trust (PoANT) Committee.
We welcome the fresh approach to planning for the future of Port Adelaide and appreciate this chance to comment on its direction.
We also welcome the intention to have a public design competition. The PoANT Committee would like to know the intended timeframe for this, understanding that the brief needs to be written first.
Also can you say how widely this competition is to be advertised - ie can we expect international participation?
Matthias Tomczak
Sun, Jul 22 at 11:20 AM
Not upgrading Diamond Conrer and spending the $7.9m on several smaller projects is the right way to go, but I think the proposed pedestrian and bike loop around the Port should be extended. We regularly walk along the west side of the canal area and are frustrated by not being able to cross the railway line. There should either be a pedestrian underpath to allow people to reach the Bower Road bridge, or a pedestrian bridge should be added to the railway bridge to provide a shorter loop that still include the only remaining mangrove area in the Port. There is some nice parkland between Bower Road and the railway bridge that is totally underused and could be included in the loop if an underpath is built under the railway line.
Matthias Tomczak
Sun, Jul 22 at 11:20 AM
Not upgrading Diamond Conrer and spending the $7.9m on several smaller projects is the right way to go, but I think the proposed pedestrian and bike loop around the Port should be extended. We regularly walk along the west side of the canal area and are frustrated by not being able to cross the railway line. There should either be a pedestrian underpath to allow people to reach the Bower Road bridge, or a pedestrian bridge should be added to the railway bridge to provide a shorter loop that still include the only remaining mangrove area in the Port. There is some nice parkland between Bower Road and the railway bridge that is totally underused and could be included in the loop if an underpath is built under the railway line.
Nicole Reynolds
Tue, Jul 17 at 6:27 PM
It's great to have community consultation, especially if comments/thoughts are heeded by those in power. It's very concerning that the last comment on here was four months ago! If the government is serious about consultation they need to keep reminding people to comment and get involved. Since the tram extension was scrapped people, once again, feel like all this consultation has been a hollow promise. Claims of listening to residents' concerns and being prepared to make immediate improvements are hollow when announcements like that are made. I know the economic outlook isn't great but many other projects are going ahead that could have been delayed without ruining a whole area. Labour scraped in at the Port Adelaide by-election with people voting in the hope they'd show what they really could do before the next election. So far, lots of talk but very little commitment. Please, I implore you to do something bold for the Port,and do it now!
Thomas Sheraton
Wed, Mar 14 at 11:38 AM
The maritime history is great but the water its self is key . build an underwater viewing tunnel from “fletchers slip museum “ back across the river to Harts mill , how crazy imaginative would that be for visitors, actually see beneath the port just like the average aquarium tunnel but in the actual harbour the surprising viewing possibilities are endless and unknown .Imagine walking under a section of the Adelaide clipper ship keel ,around twenty feet below the surface ,light from above shadows of fish ,displays setup by the museum, a fish nursery could be cultivated by experts in the Subject ,water taxis cross above, the odd dolphin swims by (priceless) .100 yards and you emerge at hart’s mill and travel on .
such a structure is not that big a deal today the harbour is small secure from weather ,relatively shallow for construction, the technology is well established. built it in the dock next to fletchers slip float it into place and dropped on the sea floor ,pump out the sea water start thinking big !
We can’t expect to bring hundreds/thousands of people here to the water’s edge and then build such assets (if we build it they will come) not my words!
think bigger
Jason Hindes
Wed, Mar 7 at 11:12 AM
The tram is without a doubt , the most important development in the ports recent history forget river crossings to get traffic out! let’s get the people to come in via a clean easy safe transport system .the tram is great so many other city’s have trams and they are extended not pulled out ,look at Melbourne , it even has a dining car in service imagine a dining car going beach to port and beyond to semi road . rejuvenate the centre of ” the port of Adelaide” with new tram line extension which must travel down the main streets ( not wimp out on existing hidden train lines )down port road and commercial to the water ( just like Glenelg ) then turn west on saint Vincent over the Jurvois bridge to semi another great spectacle .make black diamond corner a spectacle ,trams every 20 minutes to the city and back more students would consider living in those empty apartments overlooking the water .the tram means remove the bus stops in front of retail ,put them in the middle of the road ,make this transport easier than the car by putting parking areas along port road in leafy small groups to entice less cars in the port
We want the people back in the main streets they have to get of the tram in the main streets so it’s all good, a couple of platforms in both streets and the light house servicing the buses to .
Show the whole of Adelaide that the port is significant by making major investment in its structure and future for all ,not just the place for a football team (
Thomas Sheraton
Tue, Feb 28 at 7:53 AM
The harbour is the key asset that is overlooked it backs onto the port but we should consider it to be the centre, introduce people to the water on both sides of the harbour . Install fast on of jetties for a small group of water taxis small nimble boats to rotate people around to explore everything , get of the tram at the port go to the maritime museum be guided to the fletcher slip annex by staff with a pre payed ticket stub for a short boat transfer around several water platforms in the harbour under the birk bridge . Put a stop at harts mill across at new port restaurant along to fletcher slip under the bridge to cruickshank corner along to the east end development for lunch time office staff and back to the light house . a tram and water taxis will also encourage people to leave their cars at home or in satellite car parks more parking on the north bank and people will cross by water taxi into the port and walk around.
Water activity like this will keep the harbour alive always.
A working harbour means the wrong kind of traffic for the image of port Adelaide , tall ships visiting cruise boats , yachts all good but working barges floating workshops dredges just need to stay outside.
More small boat moorings encourage leisure boats to use the centre of the river perhaps west of the Birk Bridge to avoid dolphin boats which are great to see, the gulf has a big boating present sailing for one ,you can’t imagine how many dolphins are in the gulf it is staggering to
Catherine McMahon
Sat, Feb 25 at 5:43 PM
It’s great news that we’ll have the Port Renewal Project, along the lines of Renewal Newcastle which I’ve heard from my sister adds activity and colour to Newcastle’s inner city area – have seen it looking very bleak with shop closures. Thanks Premier for taking this initiative, following on from the positive developments of protecting more of Torrens Island and the architectural design competition for the Harts Milling Buildings.
Let’s hope that more of the great ideas from the community, including from the workshops held for the Port-Enfield Council and the State Government’s planning study for the Port’s wharf precinct and Cruickshank’s Corner progressively come to fruition.
It would be great to have integrated open space planning too; it was very hard to sensibly influence planning of community spaces, boardwalks and outdoor facilities while planning was tied to Newport’s staged release.
Jennyifer Louise Allen
Sat, Feb 25 at 4:49 PM
I agree with Thomas that we need more boardwalks and how about some right to the water for the disabled sector? I can't walk on sand so can never get down to the water. I went to a Disability workshop yesterday and there was good ideas that came out of that like more disabled parks and better socially inclusive attitudes which are in keeping with the National Disability strategy? I think we need a dedicated group that meets at council similar to the Aboriginal Advisory group?
Apparently at Glenelg they have special disability accessable bubbles that actually go onto the water.....great idea and why not down here?
Dog parks also are a sensible move. Keep Hart's Mill for the community, either arts, or an Aboriginal community/interpretive centre but it must remain in the hands of local people no matter what it's use.
Port Festival should be annually.
Look after this unique wetland environment with cleaning the Port River an imperative...get rid of speedboats on the river as they scare and kill the dolphins. We have a totally unique wetland environment down here and we should be cleaning up the river, getting rid of heavy industry and knocking Newport Quays down and bringing back Kingsley Haskett to Jenkins Street.
Part of being progressive is also about admitting when you get it wrong. LMC got it wrong BADLY. Why not play up the natural environment and listen to the locals and see it thrive and also bring in tourists who see us as setting an example to rest of world?